【推特转载翻译】Ave mujica对睦和解离性身份疾患（DID）之描写：DID背景下的分析情报贴（第2集,第3集,作者发癫,第4集）

volta

唔姆，发在这个地方对吗？

总之，在推特上面看到了一个分析小睦的「解离性身份疾患（DID）」症状的雄文，有感于其细致翔实，同时也是出于个人兴趣，尝试将其翻译过来。说实话专有名词非常多，很难翻译得准确，因此也将原文贴过来。很多专有名词的翻译是查维基百科得到的，所以可能存在偏差。当然，这几篇推文也是作者自己的推论，不能无条件全盘接受，不过我自己也确实因此发现了许多很有道理之处。也欢迎各位交流看法。

其实作者自己就和DID以及解离症社群有密切关系，正因如此才会有如此热情，会注意到各种细小的地方吧。当然这个联系也不是没有坏处，那就是要失掉一点客观性了。

如果其实已经有地方转载过了，我会立刻删除的。

以下的发表日期：1月17日。从第二集起的详细精神问题分析，相当细致。

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what is dissociative identity disorder (DID)?
DID is a mental health condition in which a person has multiple identities. these identities are known as alters, and they exist within a system. alters change who is fronting (controlling the body) via switching
什么是解离性身份疾患（DID）？DID是一种表现出患者身上存在多个身份的精神疾病。这些身份也被叫做另我alter，他们存在于整个解离系统system之中。另我alter通过切换switch的方式改变正在操控身体的身份。

as you would expect from the name, DID involves a lot of dissociation. it is thought to be the most extreme form of dissociation: creating multiple identities within the same mind and body to handle overwhelming circumstances or severe trauma.
正如其名，DID包含了相当多的解离症状。DID被认为是解离症中最为极端的类型：通过在一个精神和身体中创造出多个身份，来应对外界的严峻状况或者重大创伤。

DID is highly correlated with childhood trauma and trauma-based disorders like (C)PTSD. it is also often comorbid with other dissociative disorders like depersonalization (detachment from one's mind and body) and derealization (detachment from reality)
DID经常与童年创伤和童年创伤引发的精神障碍，例如(C)PTSD，联系在一起。DID同样经常与其他解离症的并发出现，例如人格-现实解体障碍（从物质躯体、心理活动中脱离），失实症（现实隔离）。

symptoms of DID include:
- separation between a person and their emotions
- believing people and things around you are not real
- an unstable sense of self or identity
- memory loss or amnesia
- time loss (due to dissociation)
- sudden, stark shifts in personality and identity
DID的症状包括：
- 患者和其情绪的分离
- 认为周围事物失去真实感
- 自我意识或者自我认同的不稳定
- 失忆症
- 时间感丧失
- 人格和身份的突然变化

throughout all of episode two, mutsumi is dissociating. she says barely anything and is always staring ahead with that glassy-eyed look. this is true in the wakaba home, at interviews, and during the photoshoot
第二集自始至终，睦都处于解离状态。睦几乎没有说过任何话，目光始终直视前方，呆滞无神。在若叶家中、采访、拍照现场时，均是如此：


It looks like she isn't entirely there during most conversations. this is what dissociation looks like to the outside viewer. she isn't focusing at all because she's not really "there" mentally to focus on what is happening.
在大多数的对话中，睦看起来实际并不存在于此。这就是解离对于外部他者来说的表现形式。睦完全没有集中精神，因为「她」的精神实际上并不在此，来让她意识到发生了什么。


when leaving the studio in this same scene, mutsumi's movements are stilted and unnatural like she has forgotten how to walk normally. this is also common with extreme dissociation: regular motion is stifled by the heavy degree of distance between body and reality
还是在这一幕当中，睦离场时的动作相当僵硬而不自然，如同忘记如何正常走路一般。这也是重症解离常有的现象：正常的动作因为身体和现实的巨大距离而变得生硬。


mutsumi's dissociation stare doesn't just come up there though. it is very present throughout the rest of the episode. she's glassy-eyed during the photoshoot, so much so that the photographer takes note of it. she is not focusing, and it is clear
不过在这一幕中，并没有出现睦因为解离产生的目光发直。不过在这一集剩下的镜头中，这个症状出现得相当之多。睦在拍照时两眼凝滞，以至于摄影师都发现了这一点。她明显没有专注于此。


there are other shots spliced in between the photoshoot showing mutsumi sitting near a window and worrying. her eyes are glassy again, but there's something else: if you look outside the window, you can see time is visibly passing as the lighting changes
在摄影这一幕中穿插的采访镜头中，睦坐在窗边，处于焦虑状态。同样是双眼无神，但是还有值得关注之处：如果看向窗外，可以通过光线的变化发现，时间明显快速流逝了。


mutsumi is worrying intensely in some shots, but in others, it looks like she feels nothing at all. this is a detachment between mutsumi and her emotions. this specific phenomenon is called emotional amnesia, something that happens often with DID
在某些镜头中，睦看起来处于非常严重的焦虑之中，但是在其他镜头中，看起来又像是没有任何感受。这就是睦和她的情绪之间的分离。这个现象称作情感性失忆症，一种经常伴随DID出现的症状。

emotional amnesia involves a person not remembering how they felt during a traumatic situation. being unmasked and facing the fallout of it was traumatic for her, and mutsumi is dissociating the pain away, leading to time loss
情感性失忆，指的是患者无法回忆起自己在创伤性经历中的感受。被摘掉面具，被迫面对由此而来的后果，这就是对睦来说的创伤经历，于是睦将经历中的痛苦通过解离剥离，导致时间感的丧失。

and nowhere is the time loss better shown than the cut at the end of the photoshoot scene. it is somewhat abrupt, suddenly jumping to mutsumi laying down in her bed. she looks as if she is waking up, but she has clearly been active throughout the day to get there
时间感丧失表现最为明显的一幕，就是睦拍照结束时的这个场景。场景切换得有些突然，一下子就跳到了睦躺在床上的情景。看起来睦好像刚刚睡醒，但是显然在来到床上之前，她应该要保持着清醒状态。


just before this jump, the audio grows distant and distorted. dissociation can cause distortion of noise as part of its detachment from reality. voices become garbled, and the camera grows softer and softer until it fades away entirely. this shows derealization clearly
在这个场景跃变之前，背景音变得扭曲而遥远。解离可以导致听觉的扭曲，作为现实剥离的一个部分。声音变得模糊不清，画面变得愈发朦胧直到完全消失，这非常清楚地表现出了失实症。

after coming to, mutsumi gets off her bed in a confused daze. she ultimately goes to the basement to hug her guitar instead of laying in bed. it does not seem like this is the same mutsumi who laid down. she switched between the photo shoot, and now, she is switching back in
「醒来」之后，睦带着混乱的目光起床了。她最后来到了地下室，不是睡在床上，而是抱紧了自己的吉他。这个睦似乎和刚才躺到床上的那个睦并不一样。她在拍摄时发生了切换switch，而现在，她又重新切换switch了回来。

this isn't the only example of amnesia in this episode. there's one other strange cut near the end of the episode when mutsumi is changing into her mortis costume just before the live show. the camera flash noise here is important: in episode two, the camera flash is the signifier that mutsumi and mortis are switching. a loud flash is the last noise we heard in the switch during the photo shoot, and now, it's the noise that shows something changing in mutsumi just before the live. when it cuts to her face after the flash, she seems completely different: no longer breathing heavily and suddenly composed
这不是这一集中唯一的失忆症表现。在这一集即将结束时，还有一个奇怪的镜头，就在睦上台前换上Mortis的戏服之时。（推荐看原片）这里「咔嚓」的快门声很重要：在第二集中，这个「咔嚓」的快门声标志着睦和Mortis的切换switch。在之前拍摄场地的最后一幕中，越来越响的噪音，就以一个大声的「咔嚓」结尾。而现在，这个快门声暗示着演出之前睦的改换。当快门响起，闪光过后，睦看起来完全不同了：不再有沉重的喘息声，突然变得平静下来。


immediately afterward, mutsumi is on the stage, and she is clearly confused by how she found herself there. mutsumi switched back in after arriving on stage, but she doesn't know how she got there because she was not in control at the time
而在这之后的一瞬间，睦就站在了舞台上，而她完全不知道自己是如何来到这里的。睦在上台之后又切换switch了回来，但是她不知道自己是怎么过来的，因为这段时间里她失去了对身体的控制。


so after episode two, mutsumi has already shown intense dissociation, derealization, depersonalization, a separation between herself and her emotions, time loss, and memory loss. that is all damning evidence that she has DID, but episode three has even more as we meet morti
所以在第二集之后，睦已经显示出了严重的解离症、失实症、人格-现实解体障碍、情绪剥离、时间感丧失，以及失忆症。这些全都是睦患有DID的证据，然而第三集随着Mortis的登场，还有更多的表现。

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volta

mortis is the missing piece of this puzzle. she is mutsumi's alter and protector and the reason for the memory and time loss. the camera flashes in episode two were because mortis was switching in and taking control when mutsumi grew too stressed and dissociated
Mortis就是那个缺失的拼图。她是睦的另我alter和保护者，也是之前的记忆和时间丧失的原因。第二集中的闪光画面就是由于Mortis切换switch过来，掌控身体，当睦的压力和解离症状过于严重之时。


switches happen often because of an outside stressor or trigger. in this case, mortis is taking over to protect mutsumi from what is going on. mutsumi is unaware of mortis' existence until episode three though and is instead confused about what is happening to her
切换switch通常是由外界压力或者契机导致的。在我们的例子中，Mortis为了保护睦而接手身体。虽然如此，睦在第三集前并没有意识到Mortis的存在，相反地，对于第二集中发生在自己身上的事情感到困惑。

during mortis' explanation of mutsumi's life, there are a few things to note. when mortis presents the show, she does so through mutsumi's body, but her mannerisms are very visibly different from what we are used to seeing from mutsumi. different alters often have different mannerisms and voices. it's not obvious if the system is masking, but if they let themselves show it, then it can be obvious when a switch happens. and this version of mutsumi is very clearly NOT mutsumi
在Mortis对睦小小一生的叙述中，有一些值得注意之处。当Mortis导演小剧场时，她是借用睦的身体演出的，但其行为举止却和我们所知的睦完全不同。不同的另我alter通常有着不同的举止和声线。当整个DID系统system没有浮上现实时，这一点并不明显，但是一旦DID表征出来，那么在切换switch发生时，这就会变得相当明显。而这个场景中的「睦」，显然不是「睦」。


the dollhouse shot is also interesting. a doll version of mutsumi resembling mortis is downstairs with her parents while mutsumi herself is upstairs and panicking. mutsumi is having an out of body experience and does not see herself as being in the room (derealization)
玩偶舞这一卡也很有意思。一个代表Mortis，有着睦外形的玩偶，在楼下和父母相伴，而睦自己则待在楼上，陷入慌乱。这里刻画的是睦的离体体验（或灵魂出窍），在她的认识里，自己并不存在于房间之中（也就是失实症）。


the entire show of mutsumi's life can be interpreted as mortis giving full access to their memories to mutsumi. mutsumi has amnesia around stressful periods, and mortis remembers in her place. now, mortis cannot hide anymore and is showing mutsumi all she has experienced
Mortis演出的整场小戏剧，可以认为是Mortis将自己持有的记忆，完全向睦展示了出来。睦在压力过大时会出现失忆症状，而取代她记住这期间的事情的，就是Mortis。现在，Mortis再也无法隐蔽身形，于是向睦展示了所有自己的经历。

throughout the episode, mortis is trying to convince mutsumi to give her control of the body in full. switches before were somewhat unpredictable, but mortis wants a consensual changing of places so mortis can protect mutsumi from then on
第三集一整集，Mortis都在尝试说服睦，让睦完全地将身体的主导转移给自己。在这之前，切换switch的发生缺乏规律，而Mortis希望能有一场两相情愿的交换，这样就可以一直保护睦下去了。

for us (and likely for many others), being triggered or stressed may not automatically result in a switch. sometimes, it means the alter fronting will get "stuck" and not be able to switch out. that seems to be happening with mutsumi, doubly because she fears yielding her control
对于我们来说，外界施加的压力或者刺激，可能不会自动地导致切换swtich。这有的时候意味着，浮上意识的另我alter可能会「卡」在此处，无法切离switch out。这看起来就是睦身上正发生的事情，而睦对自己控制身体时的恐惧，可能更会提高这一现象发生的概率。

so mortis keeps pressing it, and mutsumi keeps dissociating. mutsumi doesn't respond when nyamu arrives at her home. as sakiko and umiri come in, mutsumi spaces out of the conversation entirely to listen to mortis and the other dolls talk instead
于是在Mortis继续推动下，睦的解离不断加剧。当喵梦来到睦家地下室一开始时，睦没有任何反应。而当祥子和海玲也到场后，睦在之后的谈话中完全处于恍神之中，转而在与玩偶谈话。


mortis is very clearly not malicious. she even hugs mutsumi's shoe during their exchange. mortis wants to look after mutsumi no matter what it takes. mutsumi will break if she keeps going on like this, so mortis vows to take care of her however she can
Mortis很显然不具有恶意。她甚至在这一幕对话时抱住了睦的鞋子。Mortis为了照顾睦，可以不惜代价。现在继续下去的话，小睦会先坏掉的，于是Mortis恳求让自己来照顾睦，无论什么都会做的。

mutsumi only comes back to reality again after umiri calls her name a few times. this shows how intense her dissociation was while she was communicating with mortis. to systems with poor communication, talking to other alters can result in heavy dissociation as shown here
在海铃叫了几次她的名字以后，睦才终于回到现实。这显示了当睦和Mortis谈话时，解离症状的严重程度。对于缺乏交流的解离系统system，与另我alter的交谈可能导致动画中所表现出来的严重解离症状。


it's worth mentioning now that when mutsumi sees mortis and the other dolls, she is accessing "headspace," the inner world where alters can see and speak with each other. this world exists in the system's head, and they use it to communicate. it is not the world of reality as we know it: this is a place in mutsumi's mind, and there is a stark difference between it and the basement of the wakaba home. this isn't really a hallucination; it's mutsumi accessing headspace to speak with mortis and the others. notice how the others in the room (sakiko, nyamu, and umiri) entirely disappear when mutsumi is speaking with mortis and the others. mutsumi is retreating into headspace, a place the other three cannot access, so they do not know what she is seeing or hearing
这里值得一提的是，当睦看到Mortis和其他玩偶的时候，她造访的是所谓精神世界headspace，让另我alter之间得以互相认识，互相对话的内部世界。这个世界存在于解离系统system的头脑之中，异我alter通过这个进行交流。就我们所知，这个世界和现实世界不同：这是睦脑中的地方，与若叶家的地下室完全不同。实际不是睦看到了幻觉；而是睦来到了精神世界headspace之中，和Mortis以及其他存在说话。注意其他人（祥子、喵梦、海铃）在睦和Mortis等说话时是完全消失的。睦缩入了精神世界headspace，一个其他人无法来到的地方，因此她们无法认知睦的所见所闻。

mutsumi's next major bout of dissociation is during the conversation on the train platform. the others are arguing, and mutsumi is having a flashback to the breakup of crychic. she begins to panic and hyperventilate, the audio distorting... leading into yet another strange cut
睦接下来的解离症发是在列车站台上。其他四名成员正在争执，而睦则看到了CRYCHIC崩坏的闪回。于是她陷入恐慌，发生过呼吸症状，听觉变得异常......然后又是一个异常的镜头。


the train goes by, and when the camera next focuses on the ave mujica cast, the entire train ride has passed in a blur. mutsumi has switched out again, but she came back after the train ride. she then starts walking home in a dissociated daze, barely aware of what she is doing
列车驶过，当镜头再次对准Ave Mujica成员时，车上的路程已经转瞬而逝了。睦又一次切离switch out，但是在列车到站后又回来了。之后睦恍惚地开始回家，几乎意识不到自己的行动。

during the final piece of the episode, mutsumi finally agrees to let mortis protect her. mortis offers mutsumi an umbrella, and mutsumi accepts it. mortis swallows mutsumi whole, and the camera cuts over to show that "mutsumi" has completely changed
来到了第三集结尾，睦最终答应了让Mortis来保护自己。Mortis递出一把雨伞，睦接受了它。Mortis将睦整个吞下，画面来到了落在地上的雨伞，暗示「睦」的完全改变。

this is not mutsumi's voice nor are they her mannerisms. however, the mannerisms perfectly match mortis' interpretation during her recounting of mutsumi's past earlier in the episode. mortis has switched in, and we are seeing her acting as herself for the first time
最后回到第三季结尾的舞台。我们听到的不是睦的声音，看到的也不合睦的举止。然而，这些举止与Mortis在回忆睦的过去时，Mortis所理解的睦的行为完全一致。Mortis切换switch上场，这也是Mortis第一次决定自己的行动。


i want to take this chance to say that mortis is NOT evil. her "swallowing" mutsumi is honestly a very accurate interpretation of what switching can feel like sometimes, especially if it's the first major switch in a long time. mortis is not evil. please do not call her that.
我（作者）想借此说明，Mortis不是某个邪恶的存在。Mortis「吞噬」睦的举动在某些情况下，是对切换switch这种情形的真实写照，尤其是第一次发生重大而长期的切换switch之时。Mortis不是邪恶化身，不要这么称呼她。

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以上就是作者针对第二集和第三集，对睦建立在DID基础上的细致分析。这些文字的发布时间都是在第三集刚出之时，此时作者已经对自己的结论相当确信了。事实上作者对于新出的第四集当然也有很多话想说，所以还是（未完）。在此之前，先来看看作者对于睦的DID设定有什么话想说吧：

（未完）

volta

以下是作者发癫环节。

oh yeah one more thing. coming from someone with DID, in-system relationships and romance are NORMAL!!!!! alters date each other all the time!!!!! ship mutsumi and mortis to your heart's content because that is something that happens all the time in systems!!!!! we have a partner who we love with all our heart. even with that in mind, like 70% of our alters are dating other alters in some way. i promise it's not problematic to ship mutsumi and mortis together. do it. i encourage it. feed my new favorite ship
啊忘了说了。对于某个患有DID的人来说，系统system内的感情和恋爱是相当正常的！另我alter之间的约会一直都有！！大家都快给我来推「Mortis/睦」这对cp，这对cp在DID系统system中永远成立！！！【不知道怎么翻译】我保证「Mortis/睦」这对cp包没问题的。快推。快给我推。快为我的cp产粮。

我自己的话：难道说，我一直的小心愿「想看到好看的水仙作品」真的就要实现了吗？我做不到像作者这样自信啊。

volta

now that episode four is here, let's talk about mutsumi, mortis and their DID within ave mujica! another thread by a DID system
现在第四集出来了，来说一说睦、Mortis以及Ave Mujica中表现出来的DID吧！

the main point i want to touch on here is introjection. "what is introjection?" introjection is when a person unconsciously or consciously starts to adopt the habits, attitudes, or behaviors of other people around them. introjection can happen to anyone, but it presents very differently within systems. in the case of systems, "introject" describes an alter type in which an alter is based on an outside source. this can be fictional (called fictives by the community) or it can be someone in real life (called factives in the community). sometimes, introjects are not sourced from one person/thing but instead combine the behaviors and habits of many outside sources to create one alter. mortis definitely does this specifically with soyo & sakiko
这一次我主要想讨论的主题是心力内投introjection。什么是「心力内投introjection」？心力内投introjection是一个个体有意识或无意识地复制周围个体的习惯、态度、行为的过程。心力内投introjection可以发生在任何人身上，但对于解离系统system的人来说，其表现相当不同。对于解离系统system，内投introject指的是一种另我alter类型，这种另我alter从外界事物中形成。使得异我alter形成的外部源，可以是虚构的fictive，也可以是现实的factive。有的时候，内投异我introject可以不只基于一种外界人/物，而是结合多种外界事物的行为和习性而形成。Mortis显然是这种形成方式，而其主要的来源则是素世和祥子。

mortis copies a lot of sakiko's phrasing over the course of the episode. her speech about keeping ave mujica together and their destinies being intertwined is word for word what sakiko said with crychic back in mygo's third episode
Mortis在这一集中，使用了很多祥子曾经说过的话。她对Ave Mujica是命运共同体的发言，就是Mygo第三集中，祥子关于CRYCHIC台词的原样复刻。
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perhaps the scariest time mortis copies sakiko's phrasing is when she says that mutsumi is "already dead," copying sakiko saying that the weak version of herself has already died in ep13 of mygo. mutsumi is just asleep, but mortis still mirrors sakiko's choice of words
Mortis复制人行为最可怕的一次，或许是当她说「睦已经死了」的时候，选用的是Mygo第十三集，祥子说「弱小的我已经死了」中的词语。睦只是睡着了，但是Mortis依然原样复制了祥子曾经选择的词语。

mortis mirrors sakiko in other ways too. at the end of episode three, her curtsy move on the live show is a perfect copy of what sakiko does as oblivionis before starting an ave mujica performance. mortis even copies sakiko's inflection during this speech in ep3
其他方面上，Mortis也在模仿祥子。在第三集结束时，Mortis在舞台上行的屈膝礼，就是Oblibionis在Ave Mujica开始演奏前所行礼的完美复制。第三集的这一幕里，Mortis甚至复制了祥子的语调。

sakiko isn't the only person mortis is taking after though. mortis also copies soyo at times. the most blatant example is the meltdown she has at the end of the episode when the others tell her that ave mujica is over mirroring soyo being told crychic is over
然而祥子并不是唯一一个Mortis模仿的人。Mortis有的时候也会模仿素世。最为直接的例子就是第四集结尾，Mortis得知Ave Mujica要解散时的崩溃表现，她复制了素世得知CRYCHIC要解散时的举止。


mortis also does a few things to copy soyo's physical behavior such as crossing her fingers to say no to someone. she also has her hand on her chest during the group photo, perfectly matching soyo's photo in her primary piece of stock art
Mortis在其他的一些地方也复制了素世的肢体动作，例如在表示否定时在面前交叉两手食指，在团照时将手放在胸口，做出和素世的视觉图一模一样的动作。
【不用放图了吧】

this makes a lot of sense. to mutsumi, sakiko and soyo have both been sources of support and love. mortis is mutsumi's protector, and she is mimicking and imitating the people who have brought mutsumi comfort and safety in the past to help her out now too
这是相当合理的。对睦来说，祥子和素世都是支持和关爱的源泉。Mortis是睦的保护者，因此她会模仿过去那些为睦带来舒适和安全感的人，来帮她渡过现在的痛苦。

mortis' behavior throughout this episode is all fueled by her desire to protect and help mutsumi even if her choices are a bit misguided. she is a protector alter, meant to look after her system and keep it safe. she thinks the best way of doing that is keeping ave mujica intact
Mortis这一整集的行动都出于一个目的，保护，帮助睦，尽管她做出的选择朝向了错误的方向。她是一个保护型的另我alter，目的是照看自己的解离系统system，确保其安全。她认为达成这个目的的最好方式，就是让Ave Mujica完好地存在下去。

but mortis' actions are sometimes misguided and spiral out of control. she is doing what she thinks is best, but that may not actually be the most appropriate thing to do at any given moment, and her misguided attempts to help mutsumi ultimately cause the group to disband
但是Mortis的行为有时指向了错误的方向，最终引发了失控。她做出了自己认为最好的选择，但是在任何特定的场合下，可能这反而不是最适合的行动，而她南辕北辙的帮助睦的尝试最终导致了乐队解体。

another thing to note is that mortis tends to act much younger than she is bodily. this is very common in systems. different alters can have different ages that are older or younger than the body, and that seems applicable to mortis here
另外一个值得注意的是，Mortis表现出来的年龄远小于身体实际的年龄。这在解离系统system中是相当常见的。不同的另我alter可以拥有相比于身体更大或更小的年龄，而这一点看起来也表现在了Mortis身上。

systems also tend to be a lot shakier on age in general. systems and alters can be prone to age regression and acting younger than they actually are. this is particularly interesting with mortis because of the history we know mutsumi has. from a young age, mutsumi was pushed into the spotlight as the child of two celebrities. the wakaba home feels impersonal and barely lived in, empty and very "adult" in a strange way. this is in stark contrast to mutsumi's inner world which is all plushes and toys
一般来说，解离系统system的各部分在年龄上相当不稳定。解离系统system和异我alter可能伴随年龄退行，从而表现得比实际上更加年幼。由于我们所知道的睦的过去，Mortis身上的情形尤其值得分析。从小时候起，睦就作为两位知名父母的子女，被推到聚光灯下。若叶家缺少自家感的气氛，过于宽广的空间，奇异的「大人」氛围，与睦充满着玩偶和玩具的内部世界截然相反。

her alters present themselves as toys with mortis showing up as a doll. to me, all of this implies that mutsumi had to grow up too quickly and never really had a childhood as she wanted. as a coping mechanism, mutsumi's headspace is full of everything she wanted
睦的异我alter以玩具的外形存在，而Mortis则以玩偶的外观出现。对我作者来说，这一切暗示着睦被迫成为大人，而从未度过一个自己真正希望的童年。于是作为补偿，睦的精神世界headspace堆满了她想要拥有的东西。

and as a result of all of that, mortis comes off as somewhat immature and childish. she may not be a child alter specifically, but there's something strange going on with her age, and she very distinctly does not talk or act like she is fifteen years old
而这一切的结果就是，Mortis成为了稍微有些不成熟、幼稚的存在。她不一定是一个幼儿形态的异我alter，但是她的年龄受到了某些异常的影响，使得Mortis的言行和十五岁的少女相比，大相径庭。

mortis' childish behavior also shows in her handwriting. mortis is clearly the one writing here given the time this came out as well as the young, clunky handwriting featured on her card
Mortis孩子气的举止在她的字迹中也有表现。从卡片上幼稚圆润的签名中可以看出来，显然Mortis是在这张卡片上签名的存在。


this is also a sign of skill regression, something that happens often in DID. if one alter has experience with something but another has never done it, then switching may lead to regression of that skill. alters are literally different parts of the brain activating, so some of them are skilled at things that others are not. in mortis' case, she cannot play guitar like mutsumi. her body has done it before, but mortis does not have all that experience that mutsumi does, making it much harder for her even though she is willing to learn、
这也是技能退行的表征，一种经常伴随DID出现的症状。如果某个异我alter有着某种其他异我alter没有的经验，那么切换switch过程可能导致这项技能的丧失。异我alter如字面意义上占据了大脑的不同部分，所以异我alter可以拥有其他异我alter没有的技能。用Mortis的例子来说，就是她没法像睦一样弹吉他。她的身体弹过吉他，但是Mortis没有睦所拥有的关于吉他的经验，导致即使Mortis有意愿地学习，吉他对她来说依然相当困难。

i want to say that mortis and mutsumi have been honestly great representation so far. the only thing i would critique is the choice of "split personality" when referring to mortis. this is a very outdated choice of phrasing, though it is accurate to what people--who know nothing about the condition would say. this is something i have heard many times when talking about plurality to people for the first time, so even if it's not the best choice of words, it feels fitting for the circumstances
我想说的是目前为止，动画在刻画Mortis和睦的关系上做得真的很好。我唯一想要批评的就是使用「多重人格」来称呼Mortis。这个说法已经相当过时了，尽管对于对这种状况一无所知的人来说，这个词语是准确的。很多人第一次和我就多意识体plurality讨论时都会用到这个词语，所以即使这个词语不甚准确，在不少情况下也能适用。

i really don't want anyone to hate mortis for her behavior in this episode or in general. this show is doing a great job of showing her as a three dimensional person with her own flaws and strengths, and that is amazing and far more than representation of DID is usually given. mortis might be flawed, but she is not evil by any means, and i love her to pieces. she is misguided but wants the best for mutsumi and ave mujica at the end of the day. i look forward to seeing what she does next. and that should be it from this thread. i hope you all enjoyed. if you want to ask more about DID both in connection to or outside of ave mujica, my ask box is open for questions. great episode this week. mutsumortis remains very real forever
我很不希望大家因为这一集或者整部作品中的表现而厌恶Mortis。这部作品非常好地展现出Mortis立体的形象，有着自己的缺陷和强处，这种让人惊叹的细致刻画远远超出了DID在各种作品里的通常待遇了。Mortis或许存在缺陷，但是她绝对不是邪恶的反派，而我超级喜欢她。她走错了方向，但是视线一直朝着睦和Ave Mujica，直到最后。我相当期待Mortis接下来的戏份。那么这一集就到此结束，希望各位看得开心。如果有想问戏里戏外关于DID的问题的，请来我的提问箱。非常优秀的一集。睦xMortis99。


写完了。虽然应该不是（完结），因为似乎第五集也有相当的睦Mortis内容，不过关于DID，应该很难再有什么可讲的吧。所以

（完结）

volta

最后来说说我自己的话吧。

翻译这一系列推文的目的也说过了，作者注意到了很多我自己没有注意到的细节，而且高高举起DID大旗也相当有趣，于是就边读边翻了，就是不知道会不会有人早已搬运过了。

第四集引发的分歧非常之大，最主要的争论点之一，就是「Mortis是什么？」剧里给出的说法之外，有认为Mortis就是小睦的黑化形态的，有认为Mortis是一个独立身份但是一直在表演，目的是为了拆团的，也有直接要掀桌子的，各种各样的都有，看了让我自己很是心累。所以也是借这位作者的分析，展示我自己的认识。

我自己的看法，就是所谓奥卡姆剃刀：「如无必要，勿增实体」。Mortis作为独立身份的描写在剧里已有足够的支撑，Mortis心智的不成熟，面对大事的不老练在剧里已有足够的表现，Mortis的态度、目的在剧里已有足够的刻画，那么在此时此刻，「如无必要」，就不应当加入剧中没有体现的设定，提出一个全新的解读。加入额外的「隐藏设定」得出来的「解读」，和对原剧照单全收得到的体验，我并不认为前者更加可靠。

不过上面还漏了一个，「如无必要」。如果真的有必要新增实体呢？新增实体的理由，我想无非是认为现在的剧情里有难以解释的地方。我自己认可的，确实有些棘手的，就是op里面疑似Mortis会弹吉他，我对看法是这个只能留到之后细说了，要说「Mortis不喜欢吉他」「故意不弹吉他」还是相当牵强。我感觉比较难绷的，就是Mortis假装自己搞崩了，实际一切尽在掌握之中的说法。这种说法大概没法持续七天吧。Mortis不想大杀四方，Mortis只想保护好睦头人和睦头人的愿望。

总而言之，我自己是照单全收派，细细回看一遍，主要角色各种行为的动机也还算得上连贯。第一次看确实很容易一头雾水，一下子就演完了，这个确实做得不够好。不过我认为这不是制作组的问题，而是一集不能28分钟导致的。

minercoper

说到DID会失去技能，我在油管上看到过研究，切换不同altar的时候，大脑活跃部分会不同，这可能可以解释不同altar会拥有不同技能的原因。

kulixuan

哇，原来百合会还有人正经研究心理学（bushi）  我个人是精神分析主义者（当然是业余的），所以我觉得像mortis这样的他我，本身就诞生于自我与他者的误认中吗？不就是想象界为了维持主体与外界一致性所创造的幻象吗？从主体跟外界的角度来看，睦头作为一个主体是连贯的，但是，作为自我的小睦感觉不到这种连贯性，因为我们所看到的（更是我们所有人所体验故事的“镜头”），mortis（他我）好像是同我们相分离的，但这只是相对于小睦而言，相对于正在看故事的我们而言的。

kulixuan

事实上，我让为我们可以用不同的名字来代指不同心理学意义上的小睦。

寂静无音

很好的解读，最近写了2年的DID主题的百合文差不多也好了，恰好可以再学习一下

kunbu4

太离谱了这作，bang的第一个死者和第一个心理病人

852214077

感谢搬运真的很吓人啊，这还是邦邦吗

neko114513

谁能救救睦头啊😭

RedDragon

非常有意思的考察，从专业角度论证了对睦和mortis描写的合理性，从而把相当一部分对于剧情的过度解读或者阴谋论给摒弃了，这里的奥卡姆剃刀相当巧妙

d1sjoint

邦邦什么时候变成这样沉重的系列了😭

2900352487

为了向大家推荐睦水仙而写了一篇论文吗，你这家伙

volta

2900352487 发表于 2025-1-28 17:41
为了向大家推荐睦水仙而写了一篇论文吗，你这家伙

是这样的（或许）。所以感兴趣的各位也可以来看一看转载的这篇AO3短篇：

[AO3转载翻译][Mortis睦][Ave Mujica] 睡美人的孔雀舞 (小小睦和小Mortis的故事)(原名：Pavane de la Belle au bois dormant)

2900352487

先是感谢转载，在看到这篇之前我也是有点暂同所谓mortis是故意解散乐团，就目前的表现来看推断真是太正确了，避免了我的擅自期待擅自破防